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colossus
17-08-2009, 01:14 PM
hi kk,
my freind is fighting for the british title in 40 days at sheffield[full contact kick boxing]
as a gym owner,i mostly help bodybuilders,
however i feel i need a bit of help here,[greg is not sure about supplements]
he needs to lose about 2kg also he wants strength and power.
the guy he is fighting,is not as skillfull,[but he is strong]
this is an area greg wants to bring up.
also a training programme would be good[he doesnt usually train with weights]
as mr hattons nutrition advisor-i thought you would be the best man to advise.
a lot of people have advised him to stay away from supplements[which i personally feel is outdated] greg looks foward to your comments.Umbrellaps is it raining in manc
colossus
17-08-2009, 01:14 PM
kk - Its always raining in Manchester.
He must be economical in his weight lifting (get the most out of the least) Athletes who do more than one discipline can do too much at too many disciplines leaving them overtrained (or under-nutritioned) a man who takes too many roads get nowhere. His weightlifting should be to support his fighting not overtake it. I suggest he only does compound movement, never more than 2 body parts and only 2 exercises per body part. The first exercise 3 sets, the second exercise 2 sets. Always go to failure on your last set of each exercise having warmed up properly (why should his body get stronger if he is not failing on the weighits?) Ricky does
Monday - Qauds and Calves
Tuesday - Chest and Biceps
Wed - Off
Thurs -= Back and Hamstrings
Friday - Shoulders and Triceps
We do abs twice a week and I choose these days when I think he has got the most energy. He should not be training with the weights for more than 15 minutes so that his body is not needing to recover too much from the weightlifting preventing him from training fully at his martial arts. Who ever told him not to take supplements has either been using cheap supplements that have done them no good or clearly know nothing about nutrition.
All food or supplements are measured in kcalories, (unit of energy), a kcalorie is not a nutrient, it is a measurement of energy. To get the required nutrients for a hard working athlete would mean too many kcalories. CNP supplements are high in nutrients yet low in kcalories, look at Ricky Hatton, he comes in the gym 12 weeks out from the fight 40 lbs overweight, I have got to decrease his kcalories so that he can lose body fat and make the weight but increase his nutrients so that he can repair and recover from his immense work load, how could this possibly be done with food alone. For example, we all need protein, a Pro MR will give you 42 grams of fast and slow release protein (the only truly undenatured protein on the market) with added peptide bonded glutamine and some egg whites for the amino acids cystine with pro Biotics and some cabrs, yet this is only 270 kcalories, try and get 42 grams of quality protein in food and see how many kcalories that would be.
Your athlete needs to lose 2 kg, tell him to take Pro Mr and you will be amazed at what it will do for him.
colossus
17-08-2009, 01:15 PM
kerry thanks,
i will pass him this info or even better,link him to this site..
as a british champ i feel he could do better with an understanding of the supplements out there.
you mentioned pro mr,but what about creatine progf and such?
has a kickboxer got a use for these??Umbrella
colossus
17-08-2009, 01:15 PM
kk - I only mentioned Pro MR as in your original post you said somebody had advised him not to take supplements. I did not want to frighten him with too many. You can get lots of nutrients in a low kcalories environment with supplements.
Ricky takes Pro Vital,Pro CLA and Pro Lipid.
He takes Pro GF in the morning, Pro Recover after training and after his run, at least 2 Pro MR's a day. 2 or 3 protein slams a day and if he has porridge for breakfast (instead of a Pro MR) has had 2 scoop of Pro Peptide with that.
colossus
17-08-2009, 01:15 PM
kerry
thats spot on,i will show him the post later.
when i tell customers about supplements[they think im hustling for sales] LOL
thanks.
colossus
17-08-2009, 01:15 PM
kk - Yeah it is very hard giving good advice on supplementation (when supplements are better for that particular time or person than food) without people thinking you are trying to sell them something.
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