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colossus
13-08-2009, 04:32 PM
I am a 33yr old white collar boxer (5.7 and 10.5 stone).
At the moment I am training 4-5 times a week before work doing 2 boxing sessions (pads, bags etc), 1-2 cardio and 1 weights sessions. I have just bough CNP GF as I don't have time to eat before my work out.
If I am looking to build up my stamina along with gaining lean body mass is it best to mix weight and boxing into each session or keep them separate? I am keen to make the most of the 45mins I get each morning but am not sure whether I have the correct balance of weights vs boxing.
Many thanks
colossus
13-08-2009, 04:32 PM
I am a 33yr old white collar boxer (5.7 and 10.5 stone).
At the moment I am training 4-5 times a week before work doing 2 boxing sessions (pads, bags etc), 1-2 cardio and 1 weights sessions. I have just bough CNP GF as I don't have time to eat before my work out.
If I am looking to build up my stamina along with gaining lean body mass is it best to mix weight and boxing into each session or keep them separate? I am keen to make the most of the 45mins I get each morning but am not sure whether I have the correct balance of weights vs boxing.
Many thanks
kk - It all depends on why you do white collar boxing, if the boxing is your primary sport then you are doing the weights to supplement your boxing. The weights must always come second, i don't know whether you know or not but I train Ricky Hatton on the weights, I train him after the boxing and understand that I have got one hand tied behind my back because of the boxing.
Pro-GF will give you lots of nutrients before you train but my alarm bells are ringing a little bit when you say you havent time to eat. if you are training 4 or 5 times a week and presumably working then its all going to fall down if you don't get your nutrition right.
Why do you train? Answer - to get ***r, stronger, faster etc. But to get ***r, stronger or faster you have had to train more than your comfort zone, in doing this you have not only overloaded your cardio vascular/central nervous system but also your muscles. You overload your muscle in many efforts, bodybuilding and endurance work, your muscles lose nuclei and get minor trauma (small tears) the reason you muscles lose nuclei is so that they can replace them with more, this is how you get ***r,stronger and faster but before your body can replace and compensate with new muscle nuclei it has to repair and recover from the trauma of training.
Lets call training number 1, lets call repair and recovery number 2 and lets call ***r, stronger, faster number 3 then common sense says the shorter you can make number 2 then the faster you will get to number 3 and this takes good nutrition. As you are interested in boxing, why not go on Ricky Hattons website
http://www.rickyhitmanhatton.com/forum/index.php which will take you to Rickys forum, if you go into the general section you will see i do a section Q&A with Kerry Kayes, there is lots of info on there.
colossus
13-08-2009, 04:32 PM
Many thanks for the helpful reply and the link to Ricky's website.
Boxing is my key interest, hence the question to you as I know that training Ricky will be a challenge from many perspectives (including getting back on the straight and narrow after his breaks from fighting!) I guess I should focus more on nutrition/ recovery and make sure that weights supplement the boxing.
I have started taking pro-GF before training as I get up at 5am and train before work. I then have 2 main meals and 3 smaller meals throughout the day and occasionally the odd CNP flapjack - I guess I am concerned about eating more in case I put more fat rather than bulk.
Thanks again and good luck with getting RH ready for Juan.
Adrian
colossus
13-08-2009, 04:33 PM
Many thanks for the helpful reply and the link to Ricky's website.
Boxing is my key interest, hence the question to you as I know that training Ricky will be a challenge from many perspectives (including getting back on the straight and narrow after his breaks from fighting!) I guess I should focus more on nutrition/ recovery and make sure that weights supplement the boxing.
I have started taking pro-GF before training as I get up at 5am and train before work. I then have 2 main meals and 3 smaller meals throughout the day and occasionally the odd CNP flapjack - I guess I am concerned about eating more in case I put more fat rather than bulk.
Thanks again and good luck with getting RH ready for Juan.
Adrian
kk - Dont be frightened of eating Adrian, if you are properly training at boxing, the amount of CV work you should be doing especially as you eat quite clean, you body will need those kcalories.
The best way to know whether you are on maintenance kcalories (providing you eat roughly the same every day) is to weigh yourself once a week, on the same scales (they dont even need to be accurate as you are only comparing from week to week) first thing in the morning on an empty stomach after you have been to the toilet and before you have eaten or drank. This will be your true weight. Don't weigh yourself during the day as your body can fluctuate easily depending upon how much fluid you have drank or how much you have been to the toilet or sweated. Example, a 2 litre bottle of water weighs just over 4 pound, if you have drank that and not been to the toilet, you are 4 pound heavier, if you've been to the toilet and been sweating and not drank any fluid you could be 4 pound lighter.
If every week you weigh yourself (as i have suggested) and you stay the same weight then you have found your maintenance kcalories.
colossus
13-08-2009, 04:33 PM
What a brilliant analagy. You have a real nack of being able to get the point accross in a way everyone can understand.
colossus
13-08-2009, 04:33 PM
Please tell my wife that!!!
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